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		<title>By: US Army disinvites Franklin Graham - Page 2 - Expedite Trucking Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>US Army disinvites Franklin Graham - Page 2 - Expedite Trucking Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 02:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Forexnaf</title>
		<link>http://www.moaablogs.org/battleofthebilge/2009/07/mikeyvsgoliath/comment-page-1/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>Forexnaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not many people know what is being shared here. Thanks for sharing it with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not many people know what is being shared here. Thanks for sharing it with us.</p>
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		<title>By: currencynaf</title>
		<link>http://www.moaablogs.org/battleofthebilge/2009/07/mikeyvsgoliath/comment-page-1/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>currencynaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. Gives me what I have been looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. Gives me what I have been looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.moaablogs.org/battleofthebilge/2009/07/mikeyvsgoliath/comment-page-1/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s reasonable.  But you&#039;ll note my comment never referenced any of your content on the CFGC.  Weinstein&#039;s indictments in your blog (and elsewhere) are far more broad than the CFGC.  For example, he flatly stated his belief that &quot;evangelical chaplains&quot; are trying to &quot;shape a generation...into an army for Jesus.&quot;

His general attacks, which you repeated without qualification, are the reason I would recommend you consider discussing an alternative view on the general condition of religion (or evangelical Christianity) in the US military.

One would hope that you would at least acknowledge the critics alongside Weinstein&#039;s accusations.  When you do not acknowledge that his assertions may be incorrect, or fail to point out where they factually are, one might get the perception that you are advocating his position.  Your blog (and a comment you made elsewhere) give the appearance that you are already convinced, and supportive, of Weinstein&#039;s position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s reasonable.  But you&#8217;ll note my comment never referenced any of your content on the CFGC.  Weinstein&#8217;s indictments in your blog (and elsewhere) are far more broad than the CFGC.  For example, he flatly stated his belief that &#8220;evangelical chaplains&#8221; are trying to &#8220;shape a generation&#8230;into an army for Jesus.&#8221;</p>
<p>His general attacks, which you repeated without qualification, are the reason I would recommend you consider discussing an alternative view on the general condition of religion (or evangelical Christianity) in the US military.</p>
<p>One would hope that you would at least acknowledge the critics alongside Weinstein&#8217;s accusations.  When you do not acknowledge that his assertions may be incorrect, or fail to point out where they factually are, one might get the perception that you are advocating his position.  Your blog (and a comment you made elsewhere) give the appearance that you are already convinced, and supportive, of Weinstein&#8217;s position.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew LoFiego</title>
		<link>http://www.moaablogs.org/battleofthebilge/2009/07/mikeyvsgoliath/comment-page-1/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew LoFiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for providing an alternative view, JD.  I did attempt to contact CFGC for a third part to this story, but so far I have not received a response.  When and if I do receive one, I will post an article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for providing an alternative view, JD.  I did attempt to contact CFGC for a third part to this story, but so far I have not received a response.  When and if I do receive one, I will post an article.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.moaablogs.org/battleofthebilge/2009/07/mikeyvsgoliath/comment-page-1/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The man says he has 13,000 &quot;clients&quot; and can&#039;t give you information to independently verify any accusations?  And that doesn&#039;t make you just a little skeptical?

You might want to read the lawsuit you reported on.  You said Chalker&#039;s complaints included &quot;mandatory attendance at sectarian Christian events and prayer sessions.&quot;  That&#039;s not what the lawsuit says.  It says he was required to attend military formations at which sectarian Christian prayers were given.

There was exactly one complaint made by Chalker (&quot;numerous&quot; is arguably a poor descriptor), for which he provided three examples.  The examples didn&#039;t &quot;include&quot; being forced to attend events with prayer--that&#039;s the entirety of what they were.

Regarding the &quot;Chaplain in Afghanistan who was filmed instructing soldiers how to circumvent General Order #1,&quot; I&#039;d advise you to view the video, which is widely available.  No where in the video does the Chaplain instruct or even implicitly encourage any such thing.  That falsehood has been discredited, but Weinstein appears content to spread it.

&quot;The effects of these stories...may help explain why al Qaeda has been so successful since the war in Iraq began at recruitment.&quot;

You&#039;re right.  These stories may help our adversaries recruit.  But some of these stories are falsely portrayed and inaccurately transmitted.  If that is the case, who is responsible for the &quot;recruiting tool?&quot;  The Chaplain who is in the video who is doing nothing wrong, or the man who gets on the international news saying the Chaplain is proof of American &quot;crusading&quot;?

&quot;[Weinstein] implores all officers to resist using their command authority to promote a particular worldview, or to allow the Chaplains in their unit to do the same.&quot;

Chaplains don&#039;t have command authority, and they are expressly permitted to &quot;promote [their] worldview.&quot;  Would you suggest that a Jewish Chaplain not be allowed to deliver a religious message on a Jewish worldview during a Sabbath service? 

Weinstein has a history of flippant, alliterative hyperbole.  He&#039;s a man with an axe to grind and a political agenda.  You might consider that next time, before you write a blog that takes him at face value and provides him a platform.

An alternative view is available.  Just ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man says he has 13,000 &#8220;clients&#8221; and can&#8217;t give you information to independently verify any accusations?  And that doesn&#8217;t make you just a little skeptical?</p>
<p>You might want to read the lawsuit you reported on.  You said Chalker&#8217;s complaints included &#8220;mandatory attendance at sectarian Christian events and prayer sessions.&#8221;  That&#8217;s not what the lawsuit says.  It says he was required to attend military formations at which sectarian Christian prayers were given.</p>
<p>There was exactly one complaint made by Chalker (&#8220;numerous&#8221; is arguably a poor descriptor), for which he provided three examples.  The examples didn&#8217;t &#8220;include&#8221; being forced to attend events with prayer&#8211;that&#8217;s the entirety of what they were.</p>
<p>Regarding the &#8220;Chaplain in Afghanistan who was filmed instructing soldiers how to circumvent General Order #1,&#8221; I&#8217;d advise you to view the video, which is widely available.  No where in the video does the Chaplain instruct or even implicitly encourage any such thing.  That falsehood has been discredited, but Weinstein appears content to spread it.</p>
<p>&#8220;The effects of these stories&#8230;may help explain why al Qaeda has been so successful since the war in Iraq began at recruitment.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right.  These stories may help our adversaries recruit.  But some of these stories are falsely portrayed and inaccurately transmitted.  If that is the case, who is responsible for the &#8220;recruiting tool?&#8221;  The Chaplain who is in the video who is doing nothing wrong, or the man who gets on the international news saying the Chaplain is proof of American &#8220;crusading&#8221;?</p>
<p>&#8220;[Weinstein] implores all officers to resist using their command authority to promote a particular worldview, or to allow the Chaplains in their unit to do the same.&#8221;</p>
<p>Chaplains don&#8217;t have command authority, and they are expressly permitted to &#8220;promote [their] worldview.&#8221;  Would you suggest that a Jewish Chaplain not be allowed to deliver a religious message on a Jewish worldview during a Sabbath service? </p>
<p>Weinstein has a history of flippant, alliterative hyperbole.  He&#8217;s a man with an axe to grind and a political agenda.  You might consider that next time, before you write a blog that takes him at face value and provides him a platform.</p>
<p>An alternative view is available.  Just ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Eldon Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eldon Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During 28 years of active duty as an Air Force Chaplain I think I&#039;ve experienced about everything one can in terms of being a servant of God to people of all faiths and no faith.  As I view the current situation it is only different in magnitude from what it has been for many years. On a remote tour where there was only one chaplain to provide services for all of Ontario, Canada, I followed a chaplain who would not offer the sacrament of communion to anyone and the first time I had a service an officer asked me if I could serve him communion; he was literally hungry for the sacrament. The former chaplain was from the officer&#039;s own denominational background and it is one of the old established churches.  Towards the end of my military career I served at a base with the second largest number of chaplains in the Air Force.  We had one well educated chaplain from one of the Jesus only groups who insisted he was the only true Christian on the staff.  He was a problem for everyone and damaged the efforts of all the other chaplains.  I was drafted into the Army of the United States in the &#039;40s; at that time all chaplains were expected to equally serve the needs of all people regardless of faith or no faith.  All through my years of chaplaincy I felt my calling was to serve God and Country without regard to a person&#039;s beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During 28 years of active duty as an Air Force Chaplain I think I&#8217;ve experienced about everything one can in terms of being a servant of God to people of all faiths and no faith.  As I view the current situation it is only different in magnitude from what it has been for many years. On a remote tour where there was only one chaplain to provide services for all of Ontario, Canada, I followed a chaplain who would not offer the sacrament of communion to anyone and the first time I had a service an officer asked me if I could serve him communion; he was literally hungry for the sacrament. The former chaplain was from the officer&#8217;s own denominational background and it is one of the old established churches.  Towards the end of my military career I served at a base with the second largest number of chaplains in the Air Force.  We had one well educated chaplain from one of the Jesus only groups who insisted he was the only true Christian on the staff.  He was a problem for everyone and damaged the efforts of all the other chaplains.  I was drafted into the Army of the United States in the &#8217;40s; at that time all chaplains were expected to equally serve the needs of all people regardless of faith or no faith.  All through my years of chaplaincy I felt my calling was to serve God and Country without regard to a person&#8217;s beliefs.</p>
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